The Battle of the East French Nuclear Power Plant - Revision history

HdggDalton: because

2023-03-29T04:16:20Z

because

← Older revision		Revision as of 06:16, 29 March 2023
Line 65:		Line 65:

	==== The Yard's situation ====		==== The Yard's situation ====
	As many of Ludwig's viewers abandoned r/place as soon as he stopped streaming, The Yard's manpower was just a tiny fraction of the 25,000 when Ludwig was online and any defenders who remained had no templates to rebuild the fence, no effective leadership to organize a coherent defense, no experience with conflict on r/place, little endurance to fight for extended periods of time, and no allies who would help them, unlike the established communities they've picked a fight with, who have all those advantages in spades.[[File:Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo.png\|alt=Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.\|thumb\|Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.]]		Because many of Ludwig's viewers abandoned r/place as soon as he stopped streaming, The Yard's manpower was just a tiny fraction of the 25,000 when Ludwig was online and any defenders who remained had no templates to rebuild the fence, no effective leadership to organize a coherent defense, no experience with conflict on r/place, little endurance to fight for extended periods of time, and no allies who would help them, unlike the established communities they've picked a fight with, who have all those advantages in spades.[[File:Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo.png\|alt=Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.\|thumb\|Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.]]
	==== Second counterattack ====		==== Second counterattack ====
	Sensing blood in the water, the French community who were previously trying to reach a compromise turned completely against The Yard as soon as Ludwig stopped streaming. The coalition launched a second counterattack 15 minutes later on the :45 minute mark, having rallied even more troops. The Yard's impromptu diplomats desperately brought back up the proposed compromises from when Ludwig had the advantage, but the French now rejected them out of hand as they were in a position of strength to reclaim their entire flag. Heavily outmatched and outnumbered, The Yard's logo stood no chance. Resistance collapsed as soon as the onslaught of blue, white, and red began making the fence unrecognizable by the second wave of attacks 10 minutes in, and what remained of The Yard was soon quickly and completely demolished in just under 5 minutes by the coalition, and absorbed by the French tricolor. The Yard was destroyed in only 15 minutes after the start of the second counterattack.		Sensing blood in the water, the French community who were previously trying to reach a compromise turned completely against The Yard as soon as Ludwig stopped streaming. The coalition launched a second counterattack 15 minutes later on the :45 minute mark, having rallied even more troops. The Yard's impromptu diplomats desperately brought back up the proposed compromises from when Ludwig had the advantage, but the French now rejected them out of hand as they were in a position of strength to reclaim their entire flag. Heavily outmatched and outnumbered, The Yard's logo stood no chance. Resistance collapsed as soon as the onslaught of blue, white, and red began making the fence unrecognizable by the second wave of attacks 10 minutes in, and what remained of The Yard was soon quickly and completely demolished in just under 5 minutes by the coalition, and absorbed by the French tricolor. The Yard was destroyed in only 15 minutes after the start of the second counterattack.

HdggDalton: comma

2023-03-29T04:13:17Z

comma

← Older revision		Revision as of 06:13, 29 March 2023
Line 26:		Line 26:
	\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''		\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''
	\|-		\|-
	\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big><big>250-1250 (Ludwig offline)</big>		\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak),</big> <big>250-1250 (Ludwig offline)</big>
	\|<big>2,900-5,800</big>		\|<big>2,900-5,800</big>
	\|-		\|-

HdggDalton: small fix

2023-03-29T04:12:12Z

small fix

← Older revision		Revision as of 06:12, 29 March 2023
Line 26:		Line 26:
	\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''		\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''
	\|-		\|-
	\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big> <big>250-1250 (Ludwig offline)</big>		\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big><big>250-1250 (Ludwig offline)</big>
	\|<big>2,900-5,800</big>		\|<big>2,900-5,800</big>
	\|-		\|-

HdggDalton at 04:11, 29 March 2023

2023-03-29T04:11:09Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 06:11, 29 March 2023
Line 27:		Line 27:
	\|-		\|-
	\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big> <big>250-1250 (Ludwig offline)</big>		\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big> <big>250-1250 (Ludwig offline)</big>
	\|<big>2,900-4,800</big>		\|<big>2,900-5,800</big>
	\|-		\|-
	\|'''''<big>Result:</big>'''''		\|'''''<big>Result:</big>'''''

HdggDalton: oyou

2022-05-19T15:35:11Z

oyou

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:35, 19 May 2022
Line 62:		Line 62:

	==== Ludwig goes offline ====		==== Ludwig goes offline ====
	Though Ludwig easily fended off the first counterattack, he stopped streaming soon after, believing that his viewers would be able to hold their positions until he streamed again. The coalition understood the nature of streamer attacks, and patiently waited as The Yard's defenders melted away by the thousands every minute without Ludwig to motivate and encourage them.[[File:French representative expressing gratitude to Germany for helping them against The Yard.png\|alt=French representative expressing gratitude to Germany for helping them against The Yard. French representative "~~Oyod~~" at the :46 minute mark said "TY GERMANY 🇫🇷❤️🇩🇪 🇪🇺"\|left\|thumb\|French representative expressing gratitude to Germany for helping them against The Yard. French representative "~~Oyod~~" at the :46 minute mark said "TY GERMANY 🇫🇷❤️🇩🇪 🇪🇺"]]		Though Ludwig easily fended off the first counterattack, he stopped streaming soon after, believing that his viewers would be able to hold their positions until he streamed again. The coalition understood the nature of streamer attacks, and patiently waited as The Yard's defenders melted away by the thousands every minute without Ludwig to motivate and encourage them.[[File:French representative expressing gratitude to Germany for helping them against The Yard.png\|alt=French representative expressing gratitude to Germany for helping them against The Yard. French representative "Oyou" at the :46 minute mark said "TY GERMANY 🇫🇷❤️🇩🇪 🇪🇺"\|left\|thumb\|French representative expressing gratitude to Germany for helping them against The Yard. French representative "Oyou" at the :46 minute mark said "TY GERMANY 🇫🇷❤️🇩🇪 🇪🇺"]]

	==== The Yard's situation ====		==== The Yard's situation ====

HdggDalton: /* Second counterattack */

2022-05-15T20:34:19Z

Second counterattack

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:34, 15 May 2022
Line 67:		Line 67:
	As many of Ludwig's viewers abandoned r/place as soon as he stopped streaming, The Yard's manpower was just a tiny fraction of the 25,000 when Ludwig was online and any defenders who remained had no templates to rebuild the fence, no effective leadership to organize a coherent defense, no experience with conflict on r/place, little endurance to fight for extended periods of time, and no allies who would help them, unlike the established communities they've picked a fight with, who have all those advantages in spades.[[File:Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo.png\|alt=Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.\|thumb\|Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.]]		As many of Ludwig's viewers abandoned r/place as soon as he stopped streaming, The Yard's manpower was just a tiny fraction of the 25,000 when Ludwig was online and any defenders who remained had no templates to rebuild the fence, no effective leadership to organize a coherent defense, no experience with conflict on r/place, little endurance to fight for extended periods of time, and no allies who would help them, unlike the established communities they've picked a fight with, who have all those advantages in spades.[[File:Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo.png\|alt=Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.\|thumb\|Liberation of French community's eastern flag from Ludwig's The Yard logo. Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars helped France reclaim their flag.]]
	==== Second counterattack ====		==== Second counterattack ====
	Sensing blood in the water, the French community who were previously trying to reach a compromise turned completely against The Yard. The coalition launched a second counterattack 15 minutes later on the :45 minute mark, having rallied even more troops. The Yard's impromptu diplomats desperately brought back up the proposed compromises from when Ludwig had the advantage, but the French now rejected them out of hand as they were in a position of strength to reclaim their entire flag. Heavily outmatched and outnumbered, The Yard's logo stood no chance. Resistance collapsed as soon as the onslaught of blue, white, and red began making the fence unrecognizable by the second wave of attacks 10 minutes in, and what remained of The Yard was soon quickly and completely demolished in just under 5 minutes by the coalition, and absorbed by the French tricolor. The Yard was destroyed in only 15 minutes after the start of the second counterattack.		Sensing blood in the water, the French community who were previously trying to reach a compromise turned completely against The Yard as soon as Ludwig stopped streaming. The coalition launched a second counterattack 15 minutes later on the :45 minute mark, having rallied even more troops. The Yard's impromptu diplomats desperately brought back up the proposed compromises from when Ludwig had the advantage, but the French now rejected them out of hand as they were in a position of strength to reclaim their entire flag. Heavily outmatched and outnumbered, The Yard's logo stood no chance. Resistance collapsed as soon as the onslaught of blue, white, and red began making the fence unrecognizable by the second wave of attacks 10 minutes in, and what remained of The Yard was soon quickly and completely demolished in just under 5 minutes by the coalition, and absorbed by the French tricolor. The Yard was destroyed in only 15 minutes after the start of the second counterattack.

	=== Aftermath ===		=== Aftermath ===

HdggDalton: this particular

2022-05-15T20:18:42Z

this particular

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:18, 15 May 2022
Line 32:		Line 32:
	\|'''''<big>French coalition victory</big>'''''		\|'''''<big>French coalition victory</big>'''''
	\|}		\|}
	Strength numbers are estimates of people who took part in ~~the~~ battle rather than the strength of the whole community, and provided when available. Estimates are made by counting emoji reactions and reading chat archives.]]		Strength numbers are estimates of people who took part in this particular battle rather than the strength of the whole community, and provided when available. Estimates are made by counting emoji reactions and reading chat archives.]]

	=== Background ===		=== Background ===

HdggDalton: /* French allies */

2022-05-15T20:17:09Z

French allies

← Older revision		Revision as of 22:17, 15 May 2022
Line 44:		Line 44:

	==== French allies ====		==== French allies ====
	France's sworn ally Germany quickly mobilized to defend France, not only because of their strong cultural and geopolitical ties but also because the logo ruined their arte collaboration, further infuriating many Germans. The Irish community and r/fuckcars rushed to France's aid as well.		France's sworn ally Germany quickly mobilized to defend France, not only because of their strong cultural and geopolitical ties but also because the logo ruined their arte collaboration, further infuriating many Germans. The Irish community and r/fuckcars rushed to France's aid as well, making announcements in their Discords to help France and contributing 50-100 people each. Germany, however, contributed the most as they put all of their construction projects on hold and gathered 800-1600 people to defend France, nearly all of their online population at the time.

	==== Fall of France ====		==== Fall of France ====

HdggDalton: strength changes and comments

2022-05-15T19:32:33Z

strength changes and comments

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:32, 15 May 2022
Line 9:		Line 9:
	\|-		\|-
	\|[[File:Ludwig's channel logo.jpg\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>Ludwig Ahgren (streamer)</big> 10,000-20,000<!-- Ludwig had 25,000 viewers on his stream during the time of his attack. However, the real strength of a streamer is very hard to estimate, as some viewers are spies keeping track of what they're doing for their communities, some viewers are straight up AFK (away from keyboard), and some viewers don't join r/place at all, whether they're too lazy to or just want to watch. The exact proportion of Ludwig placers to spies, AFKers, and nonplacers is impossible to estimate, so the lower estimate of 10,000 is an estimate of the bare minimum amount of inexperienced, streamer-organized, half-unverified placers needed to overpower the French and their allies and assumes a below average level of participation from Ludwig's viewers (40%). The upper estimate of 20,000 assumes a very high level of participation from Ludwig's viewers (80%). -->		\|[[File:Ludwig's channel logo.jpg\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>Ludwig Ahgren (streamer)</big> 10,000-20,000<!-- Ludwig had 25,000 viewers on his stream during the time of his attack. However, the real strength of a streamer is very hard to estimate, as some viewers are spies keeping track of what they're doing for their communities, some viewers are straight up AFK (away from keyboard), and some viewers don't join r/place at all, whether they're too lazy to or just want to watch. The exact proportion of Ludwig placers to spies, AFKers, and nonplacers is impossible to estimate, so the lower estimate of 10,000 is an estimate of the bare minimum amount of inexperienced, streamer-organized, half-unverified placers needed to overpower the French and their allies and assumes a below average level of participation from Ludwig's viewers (40%). The upper estimate of 20,000 assumes a very high level of participation from Ludwig's viewers (80%). -->
	\|[[File:Flag of France.png\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>French community</big> 2,000-4,000		\|[[File:Flag of France.png\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>French community</big> 2,000-4,000<!-- Someone in Ludwig's chat replay said that the French only had 2,000 people, while Ludwig had 25,000. However, it is likely that the 2,000 number is derived solely from looking at the French community's subreddit online numbers, and there is a good chance that there are more French defenders than 2,000, including French randoms and French community discord members. -->
	\|-		\|-
	\|<big>'''''<u>Supporting attackers</u>'''''</big>		\|<big>'''''<u>Supporting attackers</u>'''''</big>
	\|'''''<u><big>Supporting defenders</big></u>'''''		\|'''''<u><big>Supporting defenders</big></u>'''''
	\|-		\|-
	\|[[File:The Yard logo.jpg\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>Leftover viewers defending The Yard</big> 50-~~200~~		\|[[File:The Yard logo.jpg\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>Leftover viewers defending The Yard</big> 250-1250<!-- This estimate assumes that 1-5% of a streamer's viewers continue fighting on r/place after they stop streaming. Adjust as needed if new definitive statistics come out about the percentage of viewers who stay on r/place after their streamer stops streaming -->
	\|[[File:Flag of Germany.png\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>German community</big> 800-1,~~500~~		\|[[File:Flag of Germany.png\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>German community</big> 800-1,600<!-- Lower estimates for Germany, Ireland, and r/fuckcars are made by counting emoji reactions, and then multiplying by 2 for the upper estimate as we assume that up to half of the people did participate, but didn't react with an emoji -->
	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|
Line 26:		Line 26:
	\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''		\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''
	\|-		\|-
	\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big> <big>50-~~200~~ (Ludwig offline)</big>		\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big> <big>250-1250 (Ludwig offline)</big>
	\|<big>2,900-4,~~700~~</big>		\|<big>2,900-4,800</big>
	\|-		\|-
	\|'''''<big>Result:</big>'''''		\|'''''<big>Result:</big>'''''

HdggDalton: ludwigs strength comment

2022-05-15T19:11:12Z

ludwigs strength comment

← Older revision		Revision as of 21:11, 15 May 2022
Line 8:		Line 8:
	\|<big>'''''<u>Main defender</u>'''''</big>		\|<big>'''''<u>Main defender</u>'''''</big>
	\|-		\|-
	\|[[File:Ludwig's channel logo.jpg\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>Ludwig Ahgren (streamer)</big> 20,000-25,000		\|[[File:Ludwig's channel logo.jpg\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>Ludwig Ahgren (streamer)</big> 10,000-20,000<!-- Ludwig had 25,000 viewers on his stream during the time of his attack. However, the real strength of a streamer is very hard to estimate, as some viewers are spies keeping track of what they're doing for their communities, some viewers are straight up AFK (away from keyboard), and some viewers don't join r/place at all, whether they're too lazy to or just want to watch. The exact proportion of Ludwig placers to spies, AFKers, and nonplacers is impossible to estimate, so the lower estimate of 10,000 is an estimate of the bare minimum amount of inexperienced, streamer-organized, half-unverified placers needed to overpower the French and their allies and assumes a below average level of participation from Ludwig's viewers (40%). The upper estimate of 20,000 assumes a very high level of participation from Ludwig's viewers (80%). -->
	\|[[File:Flag of France.png\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>French community</big> 2,000-4,000		\|[[File:Flag of France.png\|left\|thumb\|30x30px]]<big>French community</big> 2,000-4,000
	\|-		\|-
Line 26:		Line 26:
	\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''		\|'''''<u><big>Defender strength</big></u>'''''
	\|-		\|-
	\|<big>20,000-25,000 (peak)</big> <big>50-200 (Ludwig offline)</big>		\|<big>10,000-20,000 (peak)</big> <big>50-200 (Ludwig offline)</big>
	\|<big>2,900-4,700</big>		\|<big>2,900-4,700</big>
	\|-		\|-